gary kirkly joins us now with some more information. just what she said right there, i imagine that's true for so many people. you don't know how bad you're feeling until you start feeling good again. >> that's something i'm looking forward to as i exercise more and lose weight. i hear a lot of people say that. >> let's talk about cholesterol for a second. lot of folks can go off their cholesterol medication altogether if they just make these changes in their diet. >> that's right. the high cholesterol associated with co morbidity are the diseases associated with syndrome x, diabetes, high blood pressure. if you can treat those, oftentimes by losing weight, you can lower your cholesterol naturally. >> making changes in your diet. getting away from the red meat. does that mean you can never eat red meat? >> no. i very much appreciate what the doctor had said. i think we all need to go easy on the red meat and eat more vegetables. i think that's even part of the first lady's plans for children, etc. but you still have to live a little bit